Beyond Setting
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Beyond Setting

90% of the top roles never get posted in communities like the ones you've been told to join.

And they don't come through the guru you bought the course from either.

Whether you're chasing your first role or stuck cycling through bad ones, I teach you how to get access to those roles yourself, so you stop depending on courses, recruiters, and job posts.

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10 spots a month. Application only. If you're a fit, I reach out personally.

Close to a thousand setters placed · Thousands coached · Teams staffed for
Jeremy Miner
Tony Robbins
Dean Graziosi
Iman Gadzhi
Shelby Sapp
Matt Gray
The cycle

You joined to find opportunities. So here you are, still looking.

You joined. Optimized your profile. Applied to a few roles. Got a couple responses. Half went nowhere, the other half weren't worth taking. So you waited, applied to a few more, and ran the loop again. And again.

That's the cycle, and it goes one of two ways.

If you haven't landed yet, you're still in it, applying into the void, watching roles go to people no better than you, wondering if you'll ever get a real shot.

If you have landed, you know the other trap. The good role today is gone tomorrow. The offer stops converting, the manager has a bad week, the lead flow dries up. Back to the group. Back to the loop.

And after enough of it, the questions creep in. Is this even worth it? Am I ever going to land something that lasts? Am I ever going to make it in this space?

Everyone preaches skill. But someone half as skilled will walk into the role you wanted, purely because they knew how to get in front of it and you didn't. Skill keeps a seat. Access gets you the seat, and gets you the next one when this one ends. That's the part nobody teaches.

1
Join the group

Same pool as everyone else.

2
Apply to public posts

Hundreds of applicants. Leftovers.

3
Repeat the loop

No access. No control.

Why waiting doesn't work

The good roles never hit the groups. They move through referrals. Nobody tells you how to get in.

The roles worth having get filled before they're ever posted. Someone knows someone, a name gets passed, and the seat is gone before you ever see it. What's left in the groups is the leftovers: the roles that couldn't fill any other way, hundreds of applicants deep, low pay, high churn.

Everyone in this space will tell you the good offers come through referral networks. Nobody tells you how to actually get in. How do you get considered when nobody knows your name yet?

That's the real question, and it's the one nobody answers. That's what I teach. Not that networking exists, but the actual way in, so the top roles become something you have access to instead of something you hear about.

The leftovers

Public job groups

Hundreds of applicants per role. Low pay, bad offers, high churn. The roles that couldn't fill any other way.

The real roles

Referral networks

Filled before they're posted. Someone knows someone. Good pay, real offers, they last. You never see them from the outside.

Who I am

I'm Chris. I've spent six years doing exactly this.

Six years ago I was pushing carts at Walmart. No college, no plan, just trying to figure out what to do with my life. Then I got into setting. I was one of Jeremy Miner's first setters, worked my way up to managing his setting team, and from there I went on to coach and staff teams for some of the biggest names in the space.

I've placed close to a thousand setters, consulted hundreds of business owners, and reviewed thousands of Looms. Through that I've seen the same pattern over and over: talented reps who can't get good roles, because they don't know how to get access.

That's what I teach, because I've lived every side of it. I don't hand you videos to watch alone. I coach you directly, look at your real outreach, and open doors to real roles, mine and my network's, while you learn to open your own.

I don't need to fake a guarantee, because I'm a real recruiter who gets paid when good people get placed. My incentive is your placement.

I've been on every side of this. Setter, top setter, manager, recruiter.

~1,000Setters personally placed
100+Teams staffed across the network
ThousandsCoached through the community
6 yearsSetting, managing, recruiting

Nothing I teach is theory. I know what gets people placed because I've done the placing.

What you get

Everything except the outcome is guaranteed.

The system, the coaching, the reviews, and the access. You bring the reps. The outcome is up to you.

01

The positioning shift

How to stop being one more applicant in the pile and get seen as someone worth hiring.

02

The outreach system

Who to reach out to, what to say, and how to turn a reply into a real conversation, on your own.

03

Live coaching and call reviews

Your actual messages and calls, torn down and fixed with you. Not generic theory.

04

A working recruiter in your corner

I place people for a living. Good students get put in front of real roles, mine and my network's, while you learn to find your own.

05

The access skill for life

How to build the relationships that keep good roles coming to you for years, so you're never dependent on a course, a recruiter, or a job board again.

Be honest with yourself

Who this is for, and who it isn't

For you if
  • You're open-minded and want a long-term, sustainable career online.
  • You want to own your access instead of waiting to be picked.
  • You'll do the work when someone holds you to it.
  • You're done chasing quick wins and ready to build something real.
Not for you if
  • You're looking for another course to sit on a shelf.
  • You want a handout or a job handed to you.
  • You won't put in the reps.
  • You're hopping from one thing to the next looking for a shortcut.
How it works

Application only. Not everyone gets in.

01

You apply

You don't buy in. You apply. It takes two minutes.

02

I review it personally

I read every application myself. 10 spots a month, and I only take people worth my time to coach.

03

I reach out to you

If you're a fit, I reach out directly and get you into the next cohort. If not, no hard feelings.

The investment
$197/ month

Application required · 10 spots a month · Not open to everyone

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If you're accepted, you're in the next cohort. If not, no hard feelings, keep showing up Thursday.

The honest catch

This only works if you do the work

There's nothing guaranteed in life but death and taxes. I'm not going to promise you anything different. But if you show up and put in the work, and you're qualified, it becomes very hard for you not to get results.

I hand you the system, the coaching, the reviews, and the access. You bring the reps. The people who do get placed and build something nobody can take from them. The people who don't, won't.

"The system is guaranteed. The outcome is earned."

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Questions

Common questions

Do you guarantee I'll get a job?+

No, and anyone who does is lying to you. If you show up and do the work, it becomes very hard not to get results. It comes down to how seriously you take it and whether you actually implement. The income, the opportunities, the network, all of it is a byproduct of that.

Why would I pay when the free group exists?+

The free group is the map. This is me walking you through it, reviewing your actual outreach, and getting you into the referral networks where the good roles move. Reading a playbook and running it with a working recruiter in your corner are two different things.

How is this different from the course I already bought?+

Your course taught tactics from someone who probably hasn't done this at the level they claim, and it kept you dependent on them. I've done the whole cycle, setter, top setter, manager, placing close to a thousand setters for the biggest names in the space. This is the part nobody teaches, because most of them can't: getting your own access and keeping it.

What if I apply and don't get in?+

Then it wasn't a fit right now, and that's okay. I only take 10 people a month because I actually coach them. The bar protects you as much as it protects my reputation. Keep showing up in the group and to the Thursday call, and reapply when you're ready.

What actually is "Beyond Setting"?+

Setting is the start, not the ceiling. I teach you to build a long-term, sustainable career online as a sales rep and ascend into whatever path you want from there. Setting gets you in. The access and the network take you beyond it.

Take the next step

Apply now, it takes two minutes

Tell me why you want in and what you're looking for. If you're a fit, I'll reach out to you personally. Not everyone gets in, and that's the point.